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LUBRICATING OILS
Written by
Peter Ballard MIMechE.
Technical
Adviser Cossack Owners Club
Part 1
There is
still much confusion and misinformation out there over the best
lubricating oils to use in our engines, gearboxes and final
drives. I have taken advice again from oil companies and
companies that supply the vintage motorcycle owners and racers.
I am concerned about getting the best protection available, as
opposed to the cheapest or easiest. Here is my considered
advice:
Final
drives or differentials.
Hypoid or EP
90. An alternative can be a Hypoid or EP 140 in summer or if the
unit is warn and you wish to quieten the whine before eventual
rebuild.
Multigrades
- a 90/140-gear oil is suitable.
Gearbox:
Urals
- summer Hypoid or EP 90. This gives quieter gear changes than
80 grade but causes more drag. If you have really delicate feet
and manage quiet gear changes use Hypoid or EP Light 80. In
winter change to EP Light 80, if you use the bike for short
journeys in cold weather.
Dnieper
boxes (4 speed and reverse type). Same grade as above, but do
not use EP grade. There is a risk that the additives in EP
(Extreme Pressure) lubricants will damage by corrosion the brass
bushes on the output gears and cause premature failure.
Multigrade
gear oils - a 75/90 will replace a 80 or possibly 90.
Multigrade
engine oils (eg 20W/50) - will offer satisfactory protection;
but not as good as purpose designed gear oils.
Two strokes
with multi-plate clutches in the gearbox - Hypoid Light 80. If
you use a 90 grade then the clutch may drag or slip a little
when first used from cold, but the gear changes will be quieter,
probably good for hot weather use.
Engines:
Dnieper
plain big end bearing engines (K650, MT9. MT10, MT11, MT16, MT19
and similar).
Use a good
quality Multigrade 20W/50 from a reputable oil company all year
round.
Urals and
Dnieper MT12 with roller big ends. As per the original BMW
engines, use a Straight or Monograde 40 all year. Possibly use
30 grade in winter if the bike is kept outside and the engine
never really gets warm in use, otherwise keep to 40 grade.
Multigrades? Until recently it was not advised to use any
multigrades in these engines to get the best protection.
Multigrades:
Ø Good
- they do not thin at high temperatures as much as mono grades
and thus maintain viscosity.
Ø Good
- they do not thicken at low temperatures as much as mono grades
and thus help starting by reducing the load on starter motors or
leg.
Ø Bad
- the additives (long change polymers) to achieve viscosity
control over wide temperature range tend to get destroyed in an
air-cooled engine with local hot spots and reduce their
protection quicker than in a water-cooled car engine.
Ø Bad
- they contain additives to minimise stiction and also shear
very easily which is ideal for the shell bearing car engines
they were designed for. The rotational speed of a big end on its
crank pin is not constant during a single constant speed
crankshaft revolution (think about that over a pint!). Thus the
big end rollers need to speed up and slow down twice each
revolution. To do this they need to gain traction from the crank
pin and the inside of the conrod. The use of oil that is
designed m help things slide (like a modern multigrade) is
unhelpful, since the rollers
will tend to slide and can cause the oil film to fail
locally at big end roller contact resulting in increased wear.
The use of a lubricant that allows the rollers to roll instead
of sliding, such as a monograde oil with no shear viscosity
reduction additives will increase the life of the big ends.
Oil Change
Frequency.
Keep to the
manufacturers' recommendations, particularly during running in
and the warranty period read the manual.
Synthetic
oils typically last up to twice the mileage as mineral based
oils before needing changing.
If you use
your bike for short journeys and it often gets very hot in
traffic, then change the oil more frequently.
If you use
your bike for long gentle runs, then the engine oil will degrade
slower.
Changing the
oil more often than needed is a waste of money and a waste of
oil and does not extend engine life.
Some General
Comments:
Ø The
most expensive lubricating oil is not necessarily the best for
your machine, grade and type is far more important.
Ø Engine
oils are designed to work in engines and gear oils are designed
to work in gearboxes, so do not use engine oils in gearboxes
since gear oils are better.
Ø Lubricating
oils contain a vast range of additives to control corrosion, to
dissolve deposits, to reduce stiction, to change viscosity in a
predictable manner with changes in temperature, to cope with
local high temperatures without degrading and much more, they
are not just refined crude oil.
Ø The
blackness in the oil after use is partly due to combustion
products getting past the piston rings, but also due to
degrading and burning of the lubricating oil and its additives
resulting in what is called ash.
Ø Detergent
content. All multigrades contain significant detergent.
Monogrades can be obtained with or without detergent content.
The detergent is there to keep the engine clean and then keep
the deposits in the oil until the oil is changed. If the engine
has not been run on detergent oils before and has not been
stripped and cleaned recently, then there is a risk that the
detergent content of a lubricant containing detergent will
loosen the old deposits and circulate them around the engine;
which is not good with an engine with no or poor filter fitted.
Ø Typically
the base oil for a lubricant is mineral oil (from the ground) or
vegetable oil (typically caster or even olive oil). Synthetic
lubricating oils are synthesised from various chemicals to meet
high performance requirements, they last longer than mineral
oils before degrading and tend to reduce engine oil consumption.
It is probably a waste of money to use a synthetic oil and
change it at the same periods as a mineral based oil, you are
not getting the extended life benefit you paid for. The
manufacturers of our bikes do not quote oil change periods for
synthetic engine oil, but they tend to last up to twice as long
before needing to be changed.
Ø The
higher the number on the SAE scale the more viscous (thicker) is
the oil.
Ø Engine
oil grades are measured on a different scale from gearbox oils.
Thus a certain grade engine oil is more viscous than a similar
grade gear oil at the same temperature. This is to account for
engine oils have a higher normal operating temperature than gear
oils.
Ø Multigrade
20W/50. This means that the oil is behaving like a 20 grade at
-18°C (W denoting Winter) and like a 50 grade at 100°C.
Under the typical range of engine operating conditions, a mono
grade 40 is generally thicker than a 20W/50.
Ø Many
Japanese engines use roller bearing big ends and yet recommend
multigrades! The multigrades will aid electric starting at low
temperatures on these engines. The engines were designed with
multigrades in mind and have a very long design life anyway
where big end failure will not be expected before wear of other
components.
Last but not
least.
Dispose of
waste oil at a recognised recycling centre or disposal centre.
Telephone your local council for the location of such a site.
Engine
Oil recommendations direct from the Lubricant Manufacturers
Applicable to the Ural and similar
engines with roller bearing `big-ends'. (Including Ural M63,
M66, M67,IMZ series, M72, K750, MTi2 )
|
Lubricant Manufacturer |
Recommendation |
Brand Name |
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SAE 40 Medium Detergent |
Rubia B 40 |
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Silkolene/Century
|
SAE 40 Medium Detergent |
Silkolene Chatsworth 40 |
|
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SAE 40 Medium Detergent |
Mallard
SAE
40 |
|
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Castrol
SAE
40 |
XXL 40 |
|
 |
No recommendation |
- |
|
  |
No recommendation |
- |
|
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Multigrade 20W50 |
Classic Sport 20W/50
[PJB suggests -'Pistoneeze' Monograde SAE 40] |
|
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API SF spec oil |
Classic 40 or 50 for summer use.
Classic 30 oil for winter |
Notes
from PJB:
Miller Oils
offer no explanation as to why they think their multigrade is
more suitable than their monograde SAE 40, even with a direct
request for an explanation.
If on a trip
away from home, you run low on engine oil, and you cannot get
any monograde oil; then good quality 20Wi50 engine oil can be
used to top up.
Multigrade
oils in these engines will not give as good wear protection to
the roller big ends as the above-recommended oils, but they will
protect everything else well. Extra wear of big ends due to
occasional use of multigrades under moderate use will be
undetectable,
Dnieper
overhead valve engines (K650, MT9, MT 10, MT10-36, MTI1 and
MT16) which have shell bearing big-ends should use a multigrade
20W/50 engine oil from a reputable manufacturer for best
protection all year round.
Part 2
The information above is based on engine oil
recommendations from various lubricating oil manufacturers
mainly aimed at Ural owners due to the special requirements of
roller bearing big-ends. It was noted that some of the major
manufacturers would not offer the COC any recommendations, for
whatever reason.
I am pleased
to say that David Angel of 'F2 Motorcycles', a leading Ural
dealer and long time Ural owner, has had more success than me
and has the following comments and recommendations from other
major lubricating oil companies.
I have no
problems with these recommendations at all, except:
Ø It
does concern me that the lubricating oil companies Rock Oil and
Mobil have given the COC directly certain recommendations and
'F2 Motorcycles' different recommendations. I do not believe
either recommendation is necessarily wrong, but it is not very
professional for these major companies to issue apparently
conflicting -I' Morris Oils still recommend a conventional
mineral oil based 20W/50 that apparently conflicts with all
other recommendations so far.
With respect
to the choice between one of the specifically recommended
advanced fully synthetic oils or a medium to high detergent
mineral or vegetable based mono grade then I offer the following
advice:
Ø If
you intend to use your Ural in extreme conditions including
frequent cold starts, short journeys, frequent stop-start city
driving especially in hot weather or in very cold environments
then fully synthetic multigrade engine oil is likely to give the
very best protection.
Ø If
you intend to use your Ural for less arduous service such as
Sunday runs out, long runs to rallies, no short trips i.e. maybe
the use typical for the days when 'Classic' motorcycles were
'modern' then a medium or high detergent monograde will give
good protection.
I am pleased
to forward David Angel's comments and the advice he has obtained
from lubricating oil companies.
But please
note the following:
Ø If
you have bought a new or second-hand motorcycle from a dealer
and have a warranty on that machine, then you must use the oil
and change intervals that the dealer recommends. If not your
warranty may be invalidated.
Ø All
advice forwarded by myself and David Angle is consistent in that
it is considered not advisable to use in a Ural a conventional
mineral oil based 20W/50 multigrade whether bought from a super
market or from a major oil company. Both the recommended
straight oils and the recommended fully synthetics will be
better
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F2
MOTORCYCLES - OILY NOTES
Author -
David Angel
Regarding
the information written above I would like to make the following comments.
As anyone who has visited us, or bought a bike from us will
know, I use and strongly recommend the use of Fully Synthetic
Oils. Whilst it is true that mono grades are shear stable I feel
that they simply do not have a wide enough temperature range, to
fully protect your engine under typical all year round riding
conditions. So surely if a shear stable oil could be found that
gave the same or better protection over a wider temperature
range this would be better.
I have
contacted various oil companies and asked them to recommend an
oil based on our engine but without telling them the make. I
think if you tell them the make they just look it up in an out
of date list probably compiled before fully synthetics were
widely available. I asked them to recommend an oil that would be
shear stable in a roller bearing engine but could be used over a
wide temperature range. I also said if there really is no oil
with shear stability to match mono grades they should tell me so
I could correct my current recommendations. I told them the
engine size, type, bearing type, pump type, max power, max revs.
A summery of their replies follows:
ROCK OIL
With roller
bearing cranks, you need an oil made with large molecule bases.
One needs to be careful not to go too thick as it then prevents
rapid circulation at cold start - which is when 70% of engine
wear takes place.
Viscosity
index improves; the polymers that make a base material into a
multigrade vary enormously in their shear stability. We at Rock
use an Isoprene Diene type, the most shear stable. Synthetics
offer a demonstrable benefit in all areas of lubrication
compared with mineral oils. They have a higher natural VI and
are more shear stable.
I would
definitely recommend Rock Oil Synthesis 4 Racing. A 15w50 fully
synthetic oil with API SL, ACEA A3, and JASO Ma specifications.
We also have an interesting 20w6O racing oil called TRM which I
would recommend for any older engines. We use TRM for endurance
racing in roller bearing cranked bikes, with phenomenal results.
Drain
intervals are always tricky. As an oil Company, we are always
advised to follow the manufacturers recommendation. There are
many factors that influence drain intervals. Older type engines
tend to produce more or dirtier by-products from the combustion
process. However, for a good synthetic oil, your 2500 km seems
too short. I would feel confident at double that.
BP
Based on the
info provided we would suggest our Formula RS 10w60. This is a
fully synthetic oil using highly shear stable VI improvers. It
is only the VII's that are prone to shearing permanently.
(Castrol) Formula RS is our flagship brand and uses VI.
MORRIS OILS
20W/50
grades tend to be formulated with mineral oils that provide a
good oil film, ideal for roller bearings. They exhibit minimal
shear thinning. 20W grades will also provide good cold starting
down to -15 degrees C, so only really cold weather may be a
problem.
In
conclusion I would recommend the following product from our
range: Morris V-Twin 20W/50. Do not be put off by the name; this
oil is suitable for motorcycle engines that are not a V-Twin
configuration. 20W/50 engine oils, like V-Twin 20W/50, tend to
be mineral oil based. Mineral oils, having thicker oil films,
are much better at lubricating roller bearing cranks. There
would be no advantage to using a fully synthetic product in this
application.
MOBIL
Following
comments from Mobil's Technical Manager, our recommendation for
the bikes you are stocking are as follows: Engine - Mobil 1
Racing 4T 15w50 fully Synthetic)
F2 COMMENTS
As you can
see with the exception of Morris Oils, all who bothered to
answer have recommended the use of Fully Synthetic oils. I am
still waiting for answers from
another 2 or 3 companies and if they ever bother I will pass
this information on.
I will
continue to use and recommend the use of good quality fully
synthetic oils using the highly shear stable VI improvers. I
will be working with Castrol this year to give advice on oil
change mileage using Castrol Formula RS. I will put it in my
bike and then take small samples to send to their laboratory at
1000 KM intervals, they will then test it for sheared molecules
and let me have the results.
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