![]() |
Cossack Owners Club |
| space |
Author -
David Angel
I have read the recent article about mono grade oils in the club
publication 'Horizontal News' and would like to make the following
comments. As anyone who has visited us, or bought a bike from us will
know, I use and strongly recommend the use of Fully Synthetic Oils.
Whilst it is true that mono grades are shear stable I feel that they
simply do not have a wide enough temperature range, to fully protect
your engine under typical all year round riding conditions. So surely if
a shear stable oil could be found that gave the same or better
protection over a wider temperature range this would be better.
I have contacted various oil companies and asked them to recommend an
oil based on our engine but without telling them the make. I think if
you tell them the make they just look it up in an out of date list
probably compiled before fully synthetics were widely available. I asked
them to recommend an oil that would be shear stable in a roller bearing
engine but could be used over a wide temperature range. I also said if
there really is no oil with shear stability to match mono grades they
should tell me so I could correct my current recommendations. I told
them the engine size, type, bearing type, pump type, max power, max
revs. A summery of their replies follows:
ROCK OIL
With roller bearing cranks, you need an oil made with large molecule
bases. One needs to be careful not to go too thick as it then prevents
rapid circulation at cold start - which is when 70% of engine wear takes
place.
Viscosity index improves; the polymers that make a base material into a
multigrade vary enormously in their shear stability. We at Rock use an
Isoprene Diene type, the most shear stable. Synthetics offer a
demonstrable benefit in all areas of lubrication compared with mineral
oils. They have a higher natural VI and are more shear stable.
I would definitely recommend Rock Oil Synthesis 4 Racing. A 15w50 fully
synthetic oil with API SL, ACEA A3, and JASO Ma specifications. We also
have an interesting 20w6O racing oil called TRM which I would recommend
for any older engines. We use TRM for endurance racing in roller bearing
cranked bikes, with phenomenal results.
Drain intervals are always tricky. As an oil Company, we are always
advised to follow the manufacturers recommendation. There are many
factors that influence drain intervals. Older type engines tend to
produce more or dirtier by-products from the combustion process.
However, for a good synthetic oil, your 2500 km seems too short. I would
feel confident at double that.
BP
Based on the info provided we would suggest our Formula RS 10w60. This
is a fully synthetic oil using highly shear stable VI improvers. It is
only the VII's that are prone to shearing permanently. (Castrol) Formula
RS is our flagship brand and uses VI.
MORRIS OILS
20W/50 grades tend to be formulated with mineral oils that provide a
good oil film, ideal for roller bearings. They exhibit minimal shear
thinning. 20W grades will also provide good cold starting down to -15
degrees C, so only really cold weather may be a problem.
In conclusion I would recommend the following product from our range:
Morris V-Twin 20W/50. Do not be put off by the name; this oil is
suitable for motorcycle engines that are not a V-Twin configuration.
20W/50 engine oils, like V-Twin 20W/50, tend to be mineral oil based.
Mineral oils, having thicker oil films, are much better at lubricating
roller bearing cranks. There would be no advantage to using a fully
synthetic product in this application.
MOBIL
Following comments from Mobil's Technical Manager, our recommendation
for the bikes you are stocking are as follows: Engine - Mobil 1 Racing
4T 15w50 fully Synthetic)
F2 COMMENTS
As you can see with the exception of Morris Oils, all who bothered to
answer have recommended the use of Fully Synthetic oils. I am still
waiting for answers
from another 2 or 3 companies and if
they ever bother I will pass this information on.
I will
continue to use and recommend the use of good quality fully synthetic
oils using the highly shear stable VI improvers. I will be working with
Castrol this year to give advice on oil change mileage using Castrol
Formula RS. I will put it in my bike and then take small samples to send
to their laboratory at 1000 KM intervals, they will then test it for
sheared molecules and let me have the results.
|
|
2009 Castrol testing update, both mineral and synthetic
oils were sampled and tested by Castrol over several thousand km’s.
Briefly these tests showed that the synthetic oil had not sheared and
contained virtually no contamination of metals from bearings suggesting
that the engine was adequately protected. The mineral oil showed
considerable reduction in film strength as well as containing
contamination from various metals, presumably from the bearing or
sliding surfaces of the engine.
I cannot recommend extending the oil change interval as standard
practice even with these test results. Even the best oil in the world
will still contain the acid by products of combustion and with get
dirty. We have many customers who have extended the oil change interval
using synthetic oils when it has been unavoidable during long distance
trips. These bikes have suffered no apparent damage, but this is
occasional rather than routine extension of oil change periods.
Notes on Semi-Synthetics by David Angel.
Our current recommendations for Urals are.
Urals built before 2007 or having the Russian gearbox
internals.
Engine:
15w50, 20w50 semi-synthetic meeting API SM or
higher.
Any of the fully synthetics mentions earlier.
Gearbox:
EP80, EP90,
Final drive: EP 80w140, EP85w140
Urals built from 2007 or having German gearbox internals
Engine and gearbox:
15w50, 20w50 semi-synthetic meeting API SM or
higher.
Any of the fully synthetics mentions earlier. |
|